‘Carry at All Times’: Video of Random Woman Stabbing Boy in Front of Parents Shocks Gun Owners
First off – You need to watch this video.
Second off – The title is wrong, this should shock everyone, and if you love your family, you should be concealed carrying anyways.
Historically speaking, the world has always been full of vile, evil, crazy people willing to inflict pain and hurt on others. And just because we’ve got indoor plumbing doesn’t mean that thing’s ain’t changed none. There’s only a thin veneer of civility on top of society, and it could be argued that’s been weakened with the current state of vitrol amongst our politics, the pathetic shape of our mental health institutions, the lack of father figures in homes, and the influence of social media.
But if you are carrying a firearm, you could have done something other than flail about pathetically like the child’s father in the video.
You could have shot her during the confrontation or you could have tried to detain her afterwards.
Personally, I’m not above shooting her in the back as she’s walking away. If that gets me arrested, I’ll smile for my mug shot. But I’m not about to let someone walk away after stabbing my kids.
But I’ve always been the sort to figure, if they’re willing to do this to me and my kids, when will they stop?
Answer – when they’re incapacitated.
Now, comparing this to the mass shooting that just happened in Texas on how a concealed carry holder should act…
I read this recently at Survival Blog and found it to ring true.
The letter itself is in italics.
Some Counter-Mass Shooting Wisdom
SurvivalBlog’s Editor-At-Large Michael Z. Williamson chimed in with this letter that he received from a friend who is a former SADF trooper, in South Africa:
“Handguns are better than bare fists but that’s about it. Shooting it out with someone who is armed with a carbine sucks beyond belief. I speak for experience since, unlike a whole pile of the Internet blowhards, I’ve actually done it. As have numerous cops in other [bad places]. Ask any of them if a pistol would be their first choice if they had to do it again.
Having said that, the problem with long guns is how are you going to carry it? Go back to your vehicle and fetch it? Not going to work in reality. Carry it around in a bag or under a coat? Statistically it’s probably not worth the trouble.
As to the little Suarez gem about being seen as an accomplice if you are armed with a rifle (Obviously you should be armed with one of his red dot pistols because of wallet mining) that’s BS. The cops have been given a report of an active shooter. Anyone waving a weapon around be it a rifle, shotgun or a sidearm is going to be seen as a possible suspect and treated as such. Why? Because plenty of other weapons are used by active shooters.
A lot of police work is a game of imperfect information. Even if the report said man with a rifle, no cop in his right [expletive] mind is going to go “Oh look a guy with a pistol he must be a CCwer and I can safely ignore him, in-fact I can safely expect him to help”, to do so would be folly.
And as to the re-conceal bit. That may take timing you don’t have. I know the latest fantasy of the red dot “offensive pistol” crowd is that they will snipe the [bad guy] across the mall with their awesome skills. Maybe they will, but maybe they won’t. Bad guys don’t want to die either. If the shot is less than perfect, there are more than one shooters (remember you are also playing a game of imperfect info) or anything else aside from what you hope for you will attract fire and maybe get into a protracted firefight. At that point there is no more concealing after taking care of business.
In South Africa, during a cash in transit heist, an armed private citizen engaged the robbers with his pistol killing one. Problem was he engaged them from behind the cover of a car. Why is that a problem you ask? Because it was a car with one of them in it, assumedly a getaway vehicle. The occupant simply got out and blew the good Samaritan’s brains out. Remember it’s a game of imperfect info! A single private individual has even less of it that cops with radios and such.
Personally, I would not directly engage, unless I was in the perpetrator’s immediate vicinity or immediately threatened by an identifiable threat, some of those are better off eliminated proactively. Given the option, I would take my spouse and or family members, seek hard cover and the safety of a defensible position and wait for a decent opportunity. If the active shooter goes Mumbai style and comes looking for more targets that’s when you take the [hostile] out.
I realize that’s not being “sheepdogish” and such. But if you want to go full [hero] and charge on the sound of the guns, to die a good death then go for it. I guess someone else will look after your family and the people you saved families won’t be giving a [care] either. Life is hard, simple as that. Your immediate duty is to you and yours, [expletive] the rest. Of course its different if you are responsible for more people’s lives, for whatever reason, but most normal, family people are not.
As I’ve said before most people are not trained to clear a house, let’s not even talk about waging urban warfare in a [expletive] Shopping Mall.”
Stay safe friends. Practice shooting often and write diligently. 🙂
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Agreed! Sad what this world has come to!
For what it’s worth, the ‘sheepdog’ comparison is likely one of the most bandied and least understood allegories among the GunPeople.
I’m not necessarily a fan. Figure my primary obligation is to me and mine (maybe not in that order). Cold though it may sound, the general public is on its own.
If targeted (I hope) I’d shoot back. Otherwise I’ll try and be a decent witness.
Of course this is all academic until it happens.
….I’m really hoping it don’t happen.
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I was discussing this with a coworker the other day. Every shot you fire has legal ramifications attached. You pop off three shots at a certified bad guy and nail a bystander by mistake, unlike the police – you could be charged, sued for damages/wrongful death/etc, held responsible for medical costs, etc.
Firing, if unfired upon, should be a last resort… unless given a very opportune moment when there is no consideration for bystanders needed, and you are willing to give away your position, and willing to potentially engage in a firefight that you may be out gunned on.
Which would pretty much be sniping from ambush, something I’d feel far better armed with a rifle rather than my Glock 19.
There’s a lot of wisdom in that letter you reposted, along with yet another reason to not take Suarez seriously.
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Suarez is struggling to stay relevant these days. He started off strong, but he’s pretty limp wristed these days. 😉
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